100:00:00,000 --> 00:00:05,860Welcome to the Clinician Researcher podcast, where academic clinicians learn the skills200:00:05,860 --> 00:00:11,260to build their own research program, whether or not they have a mentor.300:00:11,260 --> 00:00:17,340As clinicians, we spend a decade or more as trainees learning to take care of patients.400:00:17,340 --> 00:00:22,380When we finally start our careers, we want to build research programs, but then we find500:00:22,380 --> 00:00:27,780that our years of clinical training did not adequately prepare us to lead our research600:00:27,780 --> 00:00:29,200program.700:00:29,200 --> 00:00:35,480Through no fault of our own, we struggle to find mentors, and when we can't, we quit.800:00:35,480 --> 00:00:40,580However, clinicians hold the keys to the greatest research breakthroughs.900:00:40,580 --> 00:00:46,200For this reason, the Clinician Researcher podcast exists to give academic clinicians1000:00:46,200 --> 00:00:51,800the tools to build their own research program, whether or not they have a mentor.1100:00:51,800 --> 00:01:01,160Now introducing your host, Toyosi Onwuemene.1200:01:01,160 --> 00:01:03,680Welcome to the Clinician Researcher podcast.1300:01:03,680 --> 00:01:07,160I'm your host, Toyosi Onwuemene, and it is a pleasure to be talking with you today.1400:01:07,160 --> 00:01:08,560Thank you for tuning in.1500:01:08,560 --> 00:01:15,080I'm excited to announce the last podcast episode for the year 2023, because we're going into1600:01:15,080 --> 00:01:17,740the holiday season and I am off next week.1700:01:17,740 --> 00:01:22,800And so I want to thank you for tuning in these last few weeks.1800:01:22,800 --> 00:01:27,920The podcast launched in August, and I am so excited about the number of people who've1900:01:27,920 --> 00:01:33,480been tuning in and regularly just letting me know how the podcast has been beneficial2000:01:33,480 --> 00:01:34,480to them.2100:01:34,480 --> 00:01:35,640So thank you so much.2200:01:35,640 --> 00:01:41,880So for this last podcast episode of the year, I'm actually freestyling it, but I really2300:01:41,880 --> 00:01:46,680wanted to stop and just really talk about the year in review, because I have to tell2400:01:46,680 --> 00:01:49,360you, this has been a phenomenal year.2500:01:49,360 --> 00:01:53,120And I mean, it's been phenomenal in so many ways, but I think the biggest way in which2600:01:53,120 --> 00:01:56,640it's been big is just that, wow, I've grown so much.2700:01:56,640 --> 00:02:03,400And the person who began this year as me is not the same person who's ending the year.2800:02:03,400 --> 00:02:06,520And that is the biggest thing that I celebrate.2900:02:06,520 --> 00:02:10,880And so in just thinking about the year in review and actually inviting you to do the3000:02:10,880 --> 00:02:16,640same, I think I want to highlight the things that maybe are not like the perfect things.3100:02:16,640 --> 00:02:18,880I mean, there are a lot of great things that have happened.3200:02:18,880 --> 00:02:23,400I will tell you today, I finally looked through and I looked at the number of manuscripts3300:02:23,400 --> 00:02:27,840we submitted this year, and we submitted 12 as a team.3400:02:27,840 --> 00:02:33,840And I'm proud of that number, not because of the number, but because of how far I've3500:02:33,840 --> 00:02:34,840come.3600:02:34,840 --> 00:02:39,120Because when I started my faculty career 10 years ago, I was someone who barely published,3700:02:39,120 --> 00:02:43,600someone who barely wrote, I certainly was not publishing with mentees in my program.3800:02:43,600 --> 00:02:48,940And so for all of those manuscripts that we published this year, I think only one of those3900:02:48,940 --> 00:02:52,080manuscripts was not done with a mentee.4000:02:52,080 --> 00:02:56,440And so the manuscripts that we submitted don't represent the number of like, oh, wow, look4100:02:56,440 --> 00:02:57,440at all that I've done.4200:02:57,440 --> 00:03:02,720But it's just, wow, look at the people that I've supported to be able to succeed in their4300:03:02,720 --> 00:03:03,720research.4400:03:03,720 --> 00:03:08,640And that feels so important and so powerful to me, because to be honest, all the challenges4500:03:08,640 --> 00:03:14,440that I feel like I've experienced in being a clinician making the transition to a researcher,4600:03:14,440 --> 00:03:20,000they become worth it when other people are able to advance in their research careers4700:03:20,000 --> 00:03:21,680because of the work that I do.4800:03:21,680 --> 00:03:28,000And so that represents to me such an important, important win, because it's not a numbers4900:03:28,000 --> 00:03:29,000win.5000:03:29,000 --> 00:03:33,380It's not even like, oh, look what I published when it's a wow, look at all the people who5100:03:33,380 --> 00:03:37,380are coming up who are able to win because you're winning.5200:03:37,380 --> 00:03:39,160And so that's so powerful to me.5300:03:39,160 --> 00:03:42,600And I just wanted to just highlight that and just celebrate that.5400:03:42,600 --> 00:03:45,000That's one of the things I'm celebrating.5500:03:45,000 --> 00:03:51,000Another thing I'm celebrating is that this is the first year that I owned my expertise5600:03:51,000 --> 00:03:52,440as a clinician researcher.5700:03:52,440 --> 00:03:57,840So for the longest time, especially, I mean, again, I started 10 years ago and I was told5800:03:57,840 --> 00:04:00,200that I wasn't qualified for this role.5900:04:00,200 --> 00:04:03,280And I was told that if I really wanted to do research, I should do it on my own at nights6000:04:03,280 --> 00:04:04,280and on weekends.6100:04:04,280 --> 00:04:06,600And as someone who's come a long way from that, right?6200:04:06,600 --> 00:04:11,960I started in an 80%, which felt to me like 100% clinical role, and I've transitioned6300:04:11,960 --> 00:04:15,000to an 80% research role.6400:04:15,000 --> 00:04:19,800And there are things I haven't accomplished that I've wanted to accomplish.6500:04:19,800 --> 00:04:24,960For example, getting an NIH R01 has been a big goal of mine and I haven't accomplished6600:04:24,960 --> 00:04:25,960that.6700:04:25,960 --> 00:04:31,040But wow, if I look at all the things I have accomplished where someone like me who was6800:04:31,040 --> 00:04:35,840a full clinician is not expected to have been able to accomplish that, is not expected to6900:04:35,840 --> 00:04:40,400have been able to acquire grant funding to be able to really support and lead a research7000:04:40,400 --> 00:04:41,400program.7100:04:41,400 --> 00:04:46,440And so I'm celebrating my owning that expertise.7200:04:46,440 --> 00:04:50,880And the reason I celebrate that is because when I was going to start this podcast, I7300:04:50,880 --> 00:04:52,380was like, who are you?7400:04:52,380 --> 00:04:57,800Who are you to stand up and say, oh, I'm going to do a podcast about transitioning from clinician7500:04:57,800 --> 00:05:03,260to researcher when you still haven't even made it yet?7600:05:03,260 --> 00:05:05,160And really, that was a conversation I had with myself.7700:05:05,160 --> 00:05:11,160And I'm like, OK, so let's say someone who's 20, 30 years ahead of me has had multiple7800:05:11,160 --> 00:05:16,920R01, U01, U54s, they've had P project grants, they've had everything.7900:05:16,920 --> 00:05:21,880OK, maybe that person is qualified to come on a podcast and say, hey, look at all I've8000:05:21,880 --> 00:05:24,760accomplished and please be like me.8100:05:24,760 --> 00:05:27,680And so I think that person is qualified.8200:05:27,680 --> 00:05:31,360The person who's 20, 30 years older than me, I don't think I'm qualified because I'm like,8300:05:31,360 --> 00:05:34,200well, I've got so much yet to accomplish.8400:05:34,200 --> 00:05:41,640And so part of me owning that win and celebrating that accomplishment is saying, you know what?8500:05:41,640 --> 00:05:49,560I may not be the most qualified person in the room when it comes to clinicians leading8600:05:49,560 --> 00:05:51,480research programs.8700:05:51,480 --> 00:05:55,800But to be honest, the story of my life is I've never been qualified to do anything.8800:05:55,800 --> 00:05:56,880I just do it.8900:05:56,880 --> 00:06:00,960And then in the process of doing it, I qualify myself.9000:06:00,960 --> 00:06:04,840And if I had listened to everyone in life who ever told me, well, you're not really9100:06:04,840 --> 00:06:08,760qualified, somebody else is more qualified than you, I wouldn't have shown up.9200:06:08,760 --> 00:06:09,880I wouldn't have advanced.9300:06:09,880 --> 00:06:12,080I wouldn't have come to where I am.9400:06:12,080 --> 00:06:17,040And so I think why that's such an important celebration to me is that it no longer matters9500:06:17,040 --> 00:06:21,040when people stand up and tell me I'm not qualified because in my mind I'm like, so what?9600:06:21,040 --> 00:06:23,320I want to do it and I'm going to.9700:06:23,320 --> 00:06:25,240And because sometimes it's like, well, you're not qualified.9800:06:25,240 --> 00:06:27,920Why don't you not try so you don't fail?9900:06:27,920 --> 00:06:31,560But in my mind, I'm like, well, qualified or not, this is what I want to do.10000:06:31,560 --> 00:06:32,560Let's do it.10100:06:32,560 --> 00:06:34,720If it doesn't work, OK, it didn't work out.10200:06:34,720 --> 00:06:35,760But you know what?10300:06:35,760 --> 00:06:38,440It just might work and that'll be awesome.10400:06:38,440 --> 00:06:44,880And so it's recognizing that I don't have to be qualified to give what I already have.10500:06:44,880 --> 00:06:51,000I don't have to be qualified to just share my story because, hey, it's my story and to10600:06:51,000 --> 00:06:56,720really own the successes that I have had in how far I've come for someone who was told10700:06:56,720 --> 00:06:59,800from the very beginning that she wasn't qualified to lead research.10800:06:59,800 --> 00:07:05,460And for that reason, she should just sit and do what everybody else is doing.10900:07:05,460 --> 00:07:12,000And so I want to celebrate that I did not allow that to keep me from coming on this11000:07:12,000 --> 00:07:15,160platform and being on this podcast.11100:07:15,160 --> 00:07:17,640So I'm celebrating that.11200:07:17,640 --> 00:07:21,840Another thing I want to celebrate this year is that this is the year I did some different11300:07:21,840 --> 00:07:25,560things that are not traditionally in line with academia.11400:07:25,560 --> 00:07:29,960I think starting this podcast is one of them, but even studying a business as a coach, as11500:07:29,960 --> 00:07:35,320a coach leading other clinicians to transition to research, that is different and new.11600:07:35,320 --> 00:07:37,160I mean, I am a mentor.11700:07:37,160 --> 00:07:39,360I have mentees within my research program.11800:07:39,360 --> 00:07:41,480I know how much it costs to mentor.11900:07:41,480 --> 00:07:43,240Wow, it's intense.12000:07:43,240 --> 00:07:48,440And the number of mentees I have in my program, I can't triple or quadruple that because it's12100:07:48,440 --> 00:07:50,920a lot of intense, focused time.12200:07:50,920 --> 00:07:51,920We're meeting every week.12300:07:51,920 --> 00:07:53,920We're meeting in between those meetings.12400:07:53,920 --> 00:07:56,120We're having conversations off the cuff.12500:07:56,120 --> 00:07:58,680I'm available as concerns come up.12600:07:58,680 --> 00:08:01,040That's a lot of work to be a mentor.12700:08:01,040 --> 00:08:04,960And there are very few people that I can really pour into in that way.12800:08:04,960 --> 00:08:07,240But wow, there are many people that I can coach.12900:08:07,240 --> 00:08:12,080I can coach a lot more people than I can mentor because it's a different kind of energy and13000:08:12,080 --> 00:08:14,480it's a different experience.13100:08:14,480 --> 00:08:19,320And so it's been powerful to step into my role as a coach because, wow, there are so13200:08:19,320 --> 00:08:24,680many more people I can reach and now it's not relevant that they're not in hematology,13300:08:24,680 --> 00:08:29,800in my field of hemostasis thrombosis, interested in the kind of research projects I do because13400:08:29,800 --> 00:08:36,360in general, what I'm coaching on is helping people really change the way they think about13500:08:36,360 --> 00:08:41,380their careers, change the way they think about their ownership of their careers, and change13600:08:41,380 --> 00:08:45,340the way they think about their power to advance their careers.13700:08:45,340 --> 00:08:48,480So that's really important and super powerful.13800:08:48,480 --> 00:08:54,920And I'm just really, really appreciative of and really excited by that because it's something13900:08:54,920 --> 00:08:55,920different.14000:08:55,920 --> 00:08:57,120I didn't think I would be doing it.14100:08:57,120 --> 00:08:59,240But wow, what an opportunity.14200:08:59,240 --> 00:09:05,520And so in celebrating that, what I'm celebrating is an openness to doing things differently,14300:09:05,520 --> 00:09:08,880an openness to an entertaining new ways of serving.14400:09:08,880 --> 00:09:09,880All right.14500:09:09,880 --> 00:09:16,680The last thing I want to talk about is just celebrating the opportunity to help other14600:09:16,680 --> 00:09:20,880people come up and help other people come along.14700:09:20,880 --> 00:09:28,000When to be honest, the perspective of my life and coming into medicine has always been about14800:09:28,000 --> 00:09:29,760helping people.14900:09:29,760 --> 00:09:34,640I came to medicine to help people and I felt disillusioned sometimes in clinical medicine15000:09:34,640 --> 00:09:39,280because I feel like, wow, there's so many people who could be helped who are not helped.15100:09:39,280 --> 00:09:44,320And so there's always this cry of my heart to say, how many people can I help?15200:09:44,320 --> 00:09:49,760And in stepping into my leadership of this podcast and stepping into my leadership in15300:09:49,760 --> 00:09:54,840my own research program, as stepping into my leadership in actually going on many other15400:09:54,840 --> 00:10:00,060podcasts this year, giving talks this year, doing things, going to business conferences15500:10:00,060 --> 00:10:05,240I've never gone to before, it's allowed me to step into a place where I'm able to help15600:10:05,240 --> 00:10:07,080so many more people.15700:10:07,080 --> 00:10:09,080And that is so important to me.15800:10:09,080 --> 00:10:10,960It is so powerful to me.15900:10:10,960 --> 00:10:16,920Because for me, this journey makes sense to the extent to which I can bring a lot more16000:10:16,920 --> 00:10:19,000people along with me.16100:10:19,000 --> 00:10:23,680This journey makes sense to me to the extent to which I can help people succeed who've16200:10:23,680 --> 00:10:26,800been told historically that they could never succeed.16300:10:26,800 --> 00:10:27,800Right?16400:10:27,800 --> 00:10:30,120And it resonates with me because I am that person.16500:10:30,120 --> 00:10:33,960I am the person who was told, well, you know what, this is not for you.16600:10:33,960 --> 00:10:35,980Quit while you're ahead.16700:10:35,980 --> 00:10:37,800But I also recognize that I'm not alone.16800:10:37,800 --> 00:10:42,240There are many people who are like me who are told every day, don't do this because16900:10:42,240 --> 00:10:44,040it's too hard.17000:10:44,040 --> 00:10:48,200And some of us listen to that, but many of us don't.17100:10:48,200 --> 00:10:53,760And we're here because we dared to do something that people said we would not succeed at.17200:10:53,760 --> 00:10:57,800And then we surprised ourselves and found out that we were successful.17300:10:57,800 --> 00:11:04,200And so to me, the opportunity to offer people that gift of don't listen when people tell17400:11:04,200 --> 00:11:08,120you you can't succeed just because you don't have a mentor.17500:11:08,120 --> 00:11:11,460Don't listen when people tell you you can't succeed just because you don't start out with17600:11:11,460 --> 00:11:12,920protected time.17700:11:12,920 --> 00:11:16,400Don't listen when people tell you you can't succeed because maybe you've never written17800:11:16,400 --> 00:11:18,920a grant or published a paper before.17900:11:18,920 --> 00:11:24,040It's like, I mean, don't listen.18000:11:24,040 --> 00:11:26,320But there will always be naysayers.18100:11:26,320 --> 00:11:32,960And so it has been so awesome to step into the leadership that I have this year and really18200:11:32,960 --> 00:11:39,000to be able to support many, many, many, many people along this journey.18300:11:39,000 --> 00:11:43,640I want to thank you for being a listener, for being someone who tunes in, even if this18400:11:43,640 --> 00:11:46,800is your very first podcast episode you're listening to.18500:11:46,800 --> 00:11:52,320I want to thank you because the fact that there are people who listen makes it possible18600:11:52,320 --> 00:11:54,000to continue to speak.18700:11:54,000 --> 00:11:58,180I will tell you that in academia, I've been in many spaces where people have asked me18800:11:58,180 --> 00:12:03,240to be silent or they've indicated to me that I was not welcome to contribute.18900:12:03,240 --> 00:12:06,880It's like, well, this space is not for people like you.19000:12:06,880 --> 00:12:12,320And so I recognize the importance and the power of having people around you who say,19100:12:12,320 --> 00:12:13,320no, please speak.19200:12:13,320 --> 00:12:16,880We're listening and we appreciate the value of what you say.19300:12:16,880 --> 00:12:22,880And so I know that you're listening to this podcast because I see the stats.19400:12:22,880 --> 00:12:23,880I'm looking at them.19500:12:23,880 --> 00:12:26,000I'm like, oh, wow, people are listening from what?19600:12:26,000 --> 00:12:29,640I mean, people are listening from all over the world, which is surprising to me because19700:12:29,640 --> 00:12:31,760I'm like, really?19800:12:31,760 --> 00:12:36,760I mean, most of my listeners right now are the United States, which is my expectation.19900:12:36,760 --> 00:12:43,000But when I see like a cluster of people listening, say in Germany, I'm like, oh, why is that?20000:12:43,000 --> 00:12:44,640But it's exciting.20100:12:44,640 --> 00:12:48,840And it allows me to keep speaking because there are people who are voting with their20200:12:48,840 --> 00:12:53,380ears and saying, hey, we appreciate what you say.20300:12:53,380 --> 00:12:55,120We appreciate what you share.20400:12:55,120 --> 00:12:58,380And so I want to thank you because you are part of that crowd, even if you only listen20500:12:58,380 --> 00:13:00,200to me one time.20600:13:00,200 --> 00:13:01,400And I really want to say thank you.20700:13:01,400 --> 00:13:06,040I want to say thank you because you have the option to listen to as many people as you20800:13:06,040 --> 00:13:07,040want.20900:13:07,040 --> 00:13:10,560And somehow you chose to be here for whatever reason.21000:13:10,560 --> 00:13:15,560And I want to say because you chose to listen, because you chose to download an episode,21100:13:15,560 --> 00:13:21,120because you dare to press play, you've given me courage to keep speaking.21200:13:21,120 --> 00:13:23,160And for that, I'm grateful.21300:13:23,160 --> 00:13:25,200And I say thank you.21400:13:25,200 --> 00:13:26,720All right.21500:13:26,720 --> 00:13:29,560So I'm going off into the end of the year.21600:13:29,560 --> 00:13:31,760I'm taking a week off.21700:13:31,760 --> 00:13:36,960And I'm excited to be able to do that because as much as I have enjoyed this year and honestly21800:13:36,960 --> 00:13:39,080all the work I've done has been so fun.21900:13:39,080 --> 00:13:40,640I've had fun this year.22000:13:40,640 --> 00:13:44,880I've had fun in my work, in the manuscripts I've written, in the grants I've submitted.22100:13:44,880 --> 00:13:47,480I've had so much fun.22200:13:47,480 --> 00:13:53,020And I also recognize the value of taking time away, not just for rest, but definitely22300:13:53,020 --> 00:13:59,000for rest because rest is critical to continue to move forward, but also to be able to reflect22400:13:59,000 --> 00:14:01,740and say, well, what does 2024 bring?22500:14:01,740 --> 00:14:05,220What do I want to create in 2024?22600:14:05,220 --> 00:14:09,680It says not like, oh, I'm going to be surprised at what 2024 is going to bring.22700:14:09,680 --> 00:14:10,680I love surprises.22800:14:10,680 --> 00:14:14,480And I'm going to prepare to create things in 2024.22900:14:14,480 --> 00:14:15,760I'm not asking 2020.23000:14:15,760 --> 00:14:18,800I'm not waiting to see what 2024 has to give me.23100:14:18,800 --> 00:14:22,240I'm like, well, 2024, this is what I'm coming to get.23200:14:22,240 --> 00:14:23,480I'm creating.23300:14:23,480 --> 00:14:26,040And I recognize my power in that creation.23400:14:26,040 --> 00:14:29,960But in order to be able to create, I need to create space.23500:14:29,960 --> 00:14:33,640I need to create time to do the work of creation.23600:14:33,640 --> 00:14:40,120The work of creation requires opportunity for deep introspection, a rest in mind, opportunities23700:14:40,120 --> 00:14:41,800for creativity.23800:14:41,800 --> 00:14:46,080And so that's what I'm looking forward to in the next week.23900:14:46,080 --> 00:14:53,440And really thinking about how I show up in 2024 more authentically, more real, more rested,24000:14:53,440 --> 00:14:55,680really building rest into my day.24100:14:55,680 --> 00:15:01,400I'm excited about next week as a time of rest, but I'm also recognizing that, well, one week24200:15:01,400 --> 00:15:02,920is not enough.24300:15:02,920 --> 00:15:05,800Rest really needs to be part of my daily experience.24400:15:05,800 --> 00:15:12,720And so thinking about how does 2024, how does my approach to 2024 allow me to create rest24500:15:12,720 --> 00:15:18,600while still having fun in the things that I'm doing as a clinician, as a researcher24600:15:18,600 --> 00:15:21,640who's leading and building a research program?24700:15:21,640 --> 00:15:23,520So I'm excited about that.24800:15:23,520 --> 00:15:28,600I want to invite you as you are looking into your week or whatever it is that you're listening24900:15:28,600 --> 00:15:30,580to this, because you know what?25000:15:30,580 --> 00:15:31,580It's arbitrary.25100:15:31,580 --> 00:15:33,220There is no real deadline.25200:15:33,220 --> 00:15:37,600You could always stop and think about how you want to show up next week, how you want25300:15:37,600 --> 00:15:40,760to show up today, how you want to show up tomorrow.25400:15:40,760 --> 00:15:46,240Even if it's past, you know, it's now when you're listening to this January 1st of 202425500:15:46,240 --> 00:15:52,520or beyond, it's never too late to pause and reflect, celebrate your wins, and then think25600:15:52,520 --> 00:15:54,760about how you want to show up in 2024.25700:15:54,760 --> 00:16:00,640And if you ask me how do I want to show up in 2024, I want to show up boldly.25800:16:00,640 --> 00:16:03,480I want to show up courageously.25900:16:03,480 --> 00:16:09,840I want to show up and no longer allow shame to direct my path.26000:16:09,840 --> 00:16:14,680I no longer am allowing fear to direct my path.26100:16:14,680 --> 00:16:15,680I'm going boldly.26200:16:15,680 --> 00:16:20,840If it feels crazy, I want to do it, because if it's crazy, I'm like, that must be where26300:16:20,840 --> 00:16:26,360I am, where I must be, because anything short of that means I'm allowing fear to rule my26400:16:26,360 --> 00:16:28,420experience.26500:16:28,420 --> 00:16:33,080I'm looking forward to creating a career that's different from any career I've seen around26600:16:33,080 --> 00:16:37,860me, because what I'm doing is living an adventure as an academic.26700:16:37,860 --> 00:16:40,640And to be honest, you could do the same too.26800:16:40,640 --> 00:16:47,920So I invite you to think about the year ahead, the weeks ahead, the months ahead as an opportunity26900:16:47,920 --> 00:16:51,720to create your own adventure in academia.27000:16:51,720 --> 00:16:55,520And don't look around and say, well, no one will let me do that.27100:16:55,520 --> 00:16:57,680Nobody chooses what you do but you.27200:16:57,680 --> 00:17:01,000And the question is not will they let you or not.27300:17:01,000 --> 00:17:03,620The question is what do you want to do?27400:17:03,620 --> 00:17:08,000How do you want your academic career to look like?27500:17:08,000 --> 00:17:09,920What do you want it to look like?27600:17:09,920 --> 00:17:11,320Who do you want to be?27700:17:11,320 --> 00:17:12,840How do you want to show up?27800:17:12,840 --> 00:17:16,080What experiences do you want to have?27900:17:16,080 --> 00:17:22,360And I hear the voice of cynicism many times and like, well, I want a lot of things, but28000:17:22,360 --> 00:17:25,160you know, whatever happens, happens.28100:17:25,160 --> 00:17:26,160And it's true.28200:17:26,160 --> 00:17:31,700There are a lot of things outside of our control, but there are so many things within our control.28300:17:31,700 --> 00:17:36,040And if we stop focusing on the things outside of our control and really focus in on the28400:17:36,040 --> 00:17:41,640things in our control, we'll find that we have so much more power and we've allowed28500:17:41,640 --> 00:17:46,200ourselves to experience, to enjoy and to wield.28600:17:46,200 --> 00:17:50,840And I look forward to opportunities to tell you more about things like that in the upcoming28700:17:50,840 --> 00:17:52,280year.28800:17:52,280 --> 00:17:54,160So at this time, we're out.28900:17:54,160 --> 00:17:56,040I hope you'll take some rest too.29000:17:56,040 --> 00:18:01,620If you have ideas for episodes that you want to see next year, please definitely send me29100:18:01,620 --> 00:18:08,640a message at info at coedcoach.com or you can leave a message on our voicemail on the29200:18:08,640 --> 00:18:09,880podcast website.29300:18:09,880 --> 00:18:17,160That's clinicianresearcherpodcast.com or you can send me a DM through Instagram or29400:18:17,160 --> 00:18:21,040Facebook and really more realistically through LinkedIn.29500:18:21,040 --> 00:18:25,880Like LinkedIn, it's a space in which you will likely find me more often than not.29600:18:25,880 --> 00:18:29,520Anyway, it's been a pleasure to talk with you today and thank you for taking the time29700:18:29,520 --> 00:18:31,920to listen today and always.29800:18:31,920 --> 00:18:38,120I wish you a very enjoyable holiday season, a time of rest and reflection.29900:18:38,120 --> 00:18:41,680Enjoy as you look forward to the adventure that is ahead of you.30000:18:41,680 --> 00:18:45,880As always, please share this episode with someone else and definitely let them know30100:18:45,880 --> 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